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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are righ,t professor, about the oldness of the movie. The film is of 1948, as indicated at the top of the review itself: Abhimanyu 1948.

I have given the date of publication of the review as Oct 2, 2008. The correct date is Oct 2, 2009. I am sorry for the inadvertent lapse.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Professor, Rengaswami and Shankar and friends,
It is really interesting to read about MSV's earlier days. Just today I was browsing through the pages of Kalki 1969 issues and it featured a serial ... Pakkathu Veettu Pramugar, featuring views of neighbours of celebrities. In one such issues, it was MSV's neighbour's part ... it was amazing ... he has described each and every point as it is as what we have heard and discussed here. (I shall try to bring i t out here as soon as possible). It is better we wait and read it instead of my narration.
One aspect I would not like to dwelve into ... writings by so called paper work historians... They just compel their personal feel and opinions on you in the form of writing history ... They may not be a witness to those what they narrate and hence the authenticity is subject to confirmation. MSV the honest man he is, it is best we stand on his own statements alone.. I dont want to pin point any particular person. but he says Sivaji Ganesan was struggling for livehood after Parasakthi, which was not true. From 1952 to 1955 he has given almost 15 to 17 pictures which comes to 5 films to 6 films an year ... considering the scenario at that time, it was a herculean task for a debutant .. So I dont want to take these so self proclaimed historians seriously unless and otherwise they are not biased.

Of course this is out and out my personal view and opinions tend to differ.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Professor, Rengaswami and Shankar and friends,
It is really interesting to read about MSV's earlier days. Just today I was browsing through the pages of Kalki 1969 issues and it featured a serial ... Pakkathu Veettu Pramugar, featuring views of neighbours of celebrities. In one such issues, it was MSV's neighbour's part ... it was amazing ... he has described each and every point as it is as what we have heard and discussed here. (I shall try to bring i t out here as soon as possible). It is better we wait and read it instead of my narration.
One aspect I would not like to dwelve into ... writings by so called paper work historians... They just compel their personal feel and opinions on you in the form of writing history ... They may not be a witness to those what they narrate and hence the authenticity is subject to confirmation. MSV the honest man he is, it is best we stand on his own statements alone.. I dont want to pin point any particular person. but he says Sivaji Ganesan was struggling for livehood after Parasakthi, which was not true. From 1952 to 1955 he has given almost 15 to 17 pictures which comes to 5 films to 6 films an year ... considering the scenario at that time, it was a herculean task for a debutant .. So I dont want to take these so self proclaimed historians seriously unless and otherwise they are not biased.

Of course this is out and out my personal view and opinions tend to differ.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Mr. Shankar,
I think for 'ennaruge nee irunthaal' credit has been given to V-R in the titles. This what I remember. Mr. Raghavengran may clarify.

I have a doubt about two songs:
1) Singaara Velane - Could MSV have composed the music for his mentor? SMS has not given another classic song like this.

2) Ennam poela kannan vandhaan from Poovum Pottum. Govardhanam is the composer. But the song has a very distinct MSV stamp, especially in the orchestration. Has MSV composed this and allowed Govardhanam to use his name? (For Telugu version of Ramu, Govardhanam is the MD. He has just copied the Tamil songs. I was surprised when one of my Telugu friends appreciated 'Nilave ennidam' Telugu song and praised Govardhanam for the wonderful composition.)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:50 am    Post subject: Speak to members Reply with quote

Dear Mr.Parthavi,
I would like to respond to your surmise on MSV being behind some of the top numbers. Singara velanE dEva of Konjum salangai has been truly credited to SMS by various segments.May be SMS has modelled this number on a pure classical note impelled by the song situation. Also, the blend oF SJ and Karukurichi AruNachalam's nagaswaram has been richly appreciated for merging the two though the two were independently recorded without SJ and KARUKURICHI being able to come to recording on the same occasion. Also the times of the song was such that VR had made a deep impression in TF industry and any of MSV's help would not have escaped attention.
Your second surmise 'eNNam pOla kaNNan vandhAn' of poovum pottum by R.Govardhanam needs being understood as that of RG himself. The fact is, he also has a music background being the brother of R Sudharsanam besides being an assistant to MSV for years. At best we can believe that these are cases of MSV's impact on contemporary styles of composition. For that matter in many of Shankar -Ganesh songs we can see MSV every inch.
As regards Shankar[Ganesh]'s relationship to CRSubbaraman, I had only suggested my 'old memory' and I am not too sure if the two were brothers or not. Sorry if we I have misled any one. Thanks for the opportunity.
Warm regards Prof.K.Raman Madurai.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent, write up Mr parthavi and others who pitched in .

i just want to add my views on two points

shankar is younger brother of CRS
and MSVs memory is world known ,and he always mixes up years , incidents etc on many - vatsan may give many quotes , and MSV's self destructive, wrong claims .

thts why i am keen , we should collect many tit bits ,details on msv , and record here ,for future generation .
ofcourse , i am not claiming the details given by others/magazines are defect free , but when , we gather from many sources , may be the truth will stay back
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

நேற்று(18/10/09) பொதிகையில் பொன்விழா கண்ட நாயகன் , என்ற கமல் ஹாசன் பற்றிய
ப்ரோக்ரம்மில் , எம் எஸ் வீ பற்றி கமல் கூறியதாவது :

எம் எஸ் வீ க்கு தன்னை பற்றியே தெரியாது . நாம் சொன்னால்தான் தெரியம்.
நான் அவருடைய பாடல்களை எனக்கு இசையும் ,ஓசையும் பிரிக்க தெரிந்த நாள்முதல் இன்று வரை கேட்டு வருகின்றேன் . நான் அவருடைய ரசிகன் . அது மட்டுமல்ல , என்னகு அடுத்த தலைமுறையான என்ன மகளும் (ஸ்ருதி) அவருடைய ரசிகை . இது iஒன்றே போதும் , தலைமுறை தாண்டி அவர் இசை இருப்பதை உணர்த்த


சத்தியமான ஒரு வார்த்தை
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

இன்று(25.10.09) வித்யாசாகர் இன் நேர்காணல் -- பொதிகை -இல

நிகட்சி
வித்யாசாகரம்


கேள்வி :

மெல்லிசை மன்னர் -பாடலுக்கு மெட்டு போடுதல் , அது போல் நீங்கள் பாட்டுக்கு மெட்டு போட முக்கியத்துவும் கொடுப்பது பற்றி ;

பதில்
மெல்லிசை மன்னரும் , அவருடன் பணிபுரிந்தவர்களும் , பாடல்களுக்கு மெட்டு போடவே விரும்புவார்கள் .

அதுவும் பாடல்களுக்கு
மெட்டு போடும் வழக்கத்தை கொண்டு வந்தவர் மெல்லிசை மன்னர்தான்
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ஆனந்தவிகடன் 4/11/09 தேதிஇட்ட இதழில் நடிகர் விக்ரமன் பற்றிய குறிப்பில்
விக்ரமுக்கு மிகவும் உயிரான பாடல். ' பொன் ஒன்று கண்டேன் , பெண் அங்கு இல்லை'. தினமும் ஒரு தடவையாவது டி.எம்.எஸ் , பி.பி.ஸ்ரீநிவாஸ் குரலில் கேட்டுவிட்டுதான் தூங்குவார்
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

நன்றி தினத்தந்தி 30/10/09
பக்கம் 19
பி சுசீலா வின் இசை நிகழ்ச்சி
கேள்வி : தமிழ் பட உலகின் இசை மேதை எம் எஸ் விஸ்வநாதன்
அவர்களுக்கு சிறந்த இசைஅமைப்பாளர் கான தேசிய விருது கூட
வழங்கபடவில்லையே ?
பி சுசீலாவின் பதில்:
[b]எம் எஸ் விஸ்வநாதனுக்கு தேசிய விருது போதாது.அவருக்கு தாதாசாகேப் விருது
வழங்கப்படவேண்டும்
[/b]


நன்றி - பி சுசீலா அவர்களே

கேள்வி ;
இப்போது வரும் ரீ மிக்ஸ் பாடல்கள் பற்றி உங்கள் கருத்து என்ன?
பி சுசீலா பதில்
நான் பாடிய பாடல்களை நானே கேட்க முடியாத அளவில் இருக்கிறது
உதாரணத்திற்கு தொட்டால் பூ மலரும் என்ற பாடல் . எல்லோருடைய இதயங்களையும்
தொட்ட பாடல் அந்த பாடலை ரி மிக்ஸ் செய்த பிறகு கேட்க முடிகிறதா
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Mr. SR Shankar,

Thanks for the information. I was not aware of this. But Pothigai people are inconsistent. They will suddenly do something crazy. Secondly, the 'expostulation' on the song may not always be enjoyable. Anyway, it is good that you find it enjoyabvle for the past month or so.

There is good competition for Pothigai. 10 to 11 we have old songs in Jaya Max ( music channel) Around this time, probably from 10.30 pm, we have Thenaruvi in Vasanth TV. For the past one week,Isaiaruvi (music channel of Kalaignar TV) has been telecasting old songs from 11 pm to 12 pm. We also have the retelecast of the morning Then Kinnam of Jaya TV from 11 am to midnight, though, of late, this program is losing its lustre due to poor song selection. For people like me who go to bed only the next day (that is after midnight), these are great boons. There is no doubt that after listening to these songs, we go to bed with a sense of euphoria and fulfillment, whatever might have been our mood during the day.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear parthavi / shankar

not to leave out world space - kl radio - vaan kuyil - from 9 -11 pm
mostly mm's songs

suryan fm - programme by YAZH sudhakar from 11 pm , and therafter
another person (rajasekharan ) anchors ninaithaley innikum -
the selection would be good .

jaya max - keeps excellant songs but will be repetitive .
thennaruvi -will be good because the first part would be black and white
and after one hr it would be songs from color movies .

WIN TV - also telecasts around 10.30 pm .

vividhbharathi broadcasts good old songs during afternoon think around 3 pm , as well as evg 6 to 6.55 .

so there is a lot to enjoy- much more than our chool days .
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Tamil classic - Sun Direct Reply with quote

Dear friends,
Many of you might not be aware that SUN DIRECT has been broadcasting in its RADIO frequency, separate channels for Tamil old film songs, TAMIL CLASSIC (channel no.902). This is a 24 hour channel. You can listen to audio only no video. Just as I was typing this post, I am listening the song Odum Megangale from Ayirathil Oruvan, 10.08 a.m. IST, 01.11.2009.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

நன்றி கல்கி 08/11/09 page 93

கிரேசி மோகன் பதில்கள்

கேள்வி

எந்தவிதமான பாடல்களை ரசிப்பீர்கள் ?

பதில்

கவிதைக்கு திருப்புகழ், சந்தமான பாடல்கள்
கர்நாடகம் ,மெல்லிசைக்கு , எனக்கு பிடித்த நாதம்
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Mr. Raghavendran, the information on Sun Direct having a separate channel for old film songs is 'music' to my years, though I don't have Sun Direct (or any other DTH connection.) This is because, since long I have been feeling sad that the World Space Radio, while having separate channels for carnatc music and old Hindi songs has not considered it necessary to have a separate channel for old Tamil film songs. Now Sun Direct has fulfilld this need.
I had earlier expresssed through this forum the need for a separate TV channel for MSV. I hope someone will do this. I would do it myself, if I have the means!
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