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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: JESUDOSS WITH MSV Reply with quote

1. Deivam Thantha Veedu - Aval Oru Thodakathai
2. Athisaya Raagam - AboorvaRaagangal

The above are My Best favourite songs.
Any comments please reply.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great songs, indeed!!!

1) Deivam thantha Veedu - The debut stage for Jaiganesh, and was well received. For this song, Kavignar Kannadasan gave about 10 charanams, KB and EMPEROR struggled a lot, which to include and which to omit.

In "Anthuleni Katha" , the telugu version (EMPEROR is the MD again), both the current superstars of Tamil cinema acted in the movie. Kamalhassan as the bus conductor, in which the heroine travels daily. Rajinikanth acted in Jaiganesh's role.

2) Athisaya Raagam - Cannot be expressed in a word about this song. I read in EMPEROR's biography that KB asked the song in a raaga that has never been used before in Cine Music. EMPEROR, in turn asked the singer Bala Murali Krishna, who gave the idea of "Mahathi". (Though I havent learnt Carnatic music, I remember the name of this Raaga. I hope any of our forum member can shred a technical analysis on this song).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Jesudas & MSV Reply with quote

Jesudas & MSV combination was one of the best in TFM.

Some of the unforgetable songs from this combination:

(1) Malare Kurinji Malare (with SJ)
(2) Neela Nayanangalil (with PS)
(3) Ennai vittal
(4)Iraivan Ulagathai Padaithanam
(5) Iravu Paadagan Oruvan
(6) Pillai Thamil
(7) Iduthan Mudhal Rathiri (with VJ)
(Cool Algennnum Oviyam Enge (with PS)
(9) Kannnin Sanithiyil
(10) Aramba Kalam Oru Pakka (with VJ)
(11) Kalathai Vellum (with PS)
(12) Thane Thanakkul
(13) Manaivi Amaivathellam
(14) Hello My Dear Wrong Number (with LRE)
(15) Aathi Enbathum
(16) Anbukku Naan Adimai
(17) Intha Pachai Kiliku
(1Cool Anthiyil Chandiran (with VJ)
(19) Thangathil Muhameduthu (with VJ)
(20) Kanji Patututhi (with Savithiri)
(21) Andhamanai Paarugal (with VJ)
(22) Ninavale Silai Seithu (with VJ)
(23) Naalai Ulagai (with MSV)

The above songs are from films released between 1975 & 1978.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear MSVs

Actually Jesudoss did not work with our EMPEROR for some time. While recording Jesudoss was objecting the loudness of Tabala Prasad and complained to EMPEROR and EMPEROR was about to support Prasad because of the situation of the song. Jesudoss has annoyed and informed that he will not work for EMPEROR and our EMPEROR was silent. After a short gap, EMPEROR has invited Jesudoss and offered excellent songs of MEENAVA NANBAN, MADHURAI MEETIYA SUNDARAPANDIAN, ANDHAMAN KADALI etc. One point we should note our EMPEROR has no personal envy with anybody (like present cine musicians-Vairamuthu Vs Ilayaraja) and invite for the songs reaching the expectations of music lovers,producers and Directors.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Jesudas & MSV Reply with quote

Jeev wrote:
Jesudas & MSV combination was one of the best in TFM.

Some of the unforgetable songs from this combination:

(1) Malare Kurinji Malare (with SJ)
(2) Neela Nayanangalil (with PS)
(3) Ennai vittal
(4)Iraivan Ulagathai Padaithanam
(5) Iravu Paadagan Oruvan
(6) Pillai Thamil
(7) Iduthan Mudhal Rathiri (with VJ)
(Cool Algennnum Oviyam Enge (with PS)
(9) Kannnin Sanithiyil
(10) Aramba Kalam Oru Pakka (with VJ)
(11) Kalathai Vellum (with PS)
(12) Thane Thanakkul
(13) Manaivi Amaivathellam
(14) Hello My Dear Wrong Number (with LRE)
(15) Aathi Enbathum
(16) Anbukku Naan Adimai
(17) Intha Pachai Kiliku
(1Cool Anthiyil Chandiran (with VJ)
(19) Thangathil Muhameduthu (with VJ)
(20) Kanji Patututhi (with Savithiri)
(21) Andhamanai Paarugal (with VJ)
(22) Ninavale Silai Seithu (with VJ)
(23) Naalai Ulagai (with MSV)

The above songs are from films released between 1975 & 1978.


(24) Irandu kaigaL naangaanaal (with SPB) Thirisoolam
(25) Thrumaalin thirumaarbil (with VJ) Thirisoolam
(26) Thendralil aadum koondhalil (with VJ) MMS Pandiyan
(27) Thanga thoniyile (with Suseela) U S Vaaliban
(2Cool Kaadhal enbathu kaaviyamaanaal (with suseela) Nalai Namadhey
(29) Vizhiye kadhai ezhudhu (with Suseela) Urimaikural.


some of KJY's early songs with MSV

'enna paarvai undhan paarvai' (kaathalikka neramillai)
'nenjaththai aLLi konjam thaa ( " " )
'alangaaram kalaiyaamal anaippathuthaan' (namma veetu latchumi)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 more songs from KJY in MSV

1 Raja I love you - Imai thotta - Unakaga naan

2. mannika maataya - Janani

Kannanin sannhidhiyil by JC.Not KJY.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another schintillating song:

Vallamana Bhoomiyil sugamana kalaigal from "Ore Vaanam Ore Bhoomi".

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more... An "unnoticed" but a good "pep" from "Parakkum Paavai"

Sugam Ethile Idayathila (TMS, LRE and KJY) - KJY sings for Chandrababu in the song.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: MSV& KJY Reply with quote

Dear All,

One of my most favourites between MSV & KJY is "Veenai Pesum, athai meettum viralgalai kandu", stunning melody with the Veena being played all over the song. Great work by our Legend.

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MSV IS MUSIC
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear vaidy,
Inru - indha paatai than naanum solla vandhen.Thank you Sir.

Veenai pesum = Beautiful prelude.Soft humming by SAsireka. KJY in bhavamana rendition. Beautiful composition by MSV.....

Indha paatu endha padathil? Indha
padathil veru enna padalgal iruku?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: My 100th post !!!! Reply with quote

Dear Usha ma'm
The song "Veenai Pesum" is from the movie "Vazhvu En Pakkam". Muthuraman and Lakshmi form the lead protagonists in the movie.Another song that I know from this movie is "Thirupathi Malayil Yerukinrai...." sung by our Master himself !!! Amazing song....Please listen to it in the "SONGS" section of our website. You will love it...

What are the other songs from the movie ?

MSV Rules !!!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: My 100th post !!!! Reply with quote

tvvraghavan wrote:
Another song that I know from this movie is "Thirupathi Malayil Yerukinrai...." sung by our Master himself !!! Amazing song....Please listen to it in the "SONGS" section of our website. You will love it...



Again,an amazing prelude, that gives the expression of a moving train and the raising whistle of the engine, when our EMPEROR starts "Thirupathi Malayil Erikindrai".. Beautiful!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear VEnkat,
Thanks for the info.

"THirupadhi maiaiyil" indha padalai ketkiren.

MSV Voice il 2 padalgal migavum pidikum.

1."Nee irundhal inerathilae"

2.Edharkum oru kaalam undu Poruthiru magalae" .Beautiful songs.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: SINGERS-K.J.YESUDOSS Reply with quote

DEAR FRIENDS,
There is a reference to that unpalatable incident on the recording set when KJJ almost proved to every one that Ego can blind anyone to a point of distress to others. What happened should not have happened to MSV-FOR ON THAT OCCASION ALL RECORDING ENGINEERS felt too hurt at the gesticulations of KJJ. But being a true composer,MSV stood by Tabla Prasad. Much later only, MSV used KJJ for that number
'Mannikka Maattaya" an apt reference to the episode. [that is what one one of our friends recalls]. In later years the esteem for MSV by KJJ is too well known to be discussed. There are such pointers for all of us to stay totally composed on the face of any adversity.
Warm regards Prof.K.Raman Navi Mumbai.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Well Said Prof !!! Reply with quote

Dear Prof Uncle,
You have beautifully delineated the incident with the appropriate word "GESTICULATION". It seems KJJ was just singing 25% of what our Master had taught him and this had bothered Tabla Prasad a lot and hence he stopped playing tabla during the recording. And when questioned , he informed the same in microphone. KJJ called upon Shri.MSV with his index finger (gesticulated) and after some misunderstanding walked out of the recording. Our Master had told him that Tabla Prasad and his father had been playing for him years together well before KJJ came into his team and hence cannot drop him from the recording.
This particular incident has numerous versions. One of them being a quarrel between MSV and KJJ over an inebriated instrumentalist (Tabla Prasad ??) in the recording. Am not sure how authentic this version is , yet the aforementioned is from authentic sources.

Nevertheless, I would still defer in your views of increase in KJJ's esteem for MSV in the later years for the very reason that he still blames the MD of "Andhaman Kaadhali" which is our Master for his rendition of "The(i)ru Koviley Odivaa..." in the song "Ninaivaley Silai Seidhu.." . He says this in almost all his interviews claiming that the MD did not correct his mistake during recording. But the truth remains concealed here as our Master had corrected this grave error several times during the recording and that he kept on repeating it.So our Master had told the Director to shoot some Temple on a street corner ("THERU KOVILEY...") when these lines are sung in the movie !!!

MSV Rules !!!
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